Talking with a Gnostic

RP: I made a post about Yahweh being the one who lied in the garden and that he was the one Jesus was talking about in John 8:44, and people had a lot of very negative comments towards me. Let me be clear: I love Jesus Christ very much and believe he died on the cross so I could have eternal life. He is my lord and savior. With that said, I do not believe Yahweh, the God in the Old Testament is Jesus’ father. Yahweh is the murderer and father of lies Jesus speaks of in John 8:44.

OG: You’re a Gnostic. Okay. You have absolutely no reasonable justification for your belief that Yahweh is evil. The only way you could possibly believe that Yahweh of the Hebrew Bible is not the Father of Jesus in the New Testament is if you can’t even be bothered to ever in your life even look at a Bible with a rational eye. Now go ahead and clump me in with all those mean posts without thinking about what I said.

Yahweh and the serpent thought of what was meant by death differently than you do. Nobody had ever experienced a cessation of biological processes when those statements were made. Do you even know what death means?

RP: Except he kills thousands of people, requires sacrifices, human and animal of the first born, circumcisions, shall I keep going? I would hate to see what you consider evil.

OG: Yeah. That’s your problem. Ignorance. The problem is, in order for you to be straightened out, you will have to learn. And for that, you would have to be open to accepting the truth. And you don’t want to do that. You’ve already decided who you hate. So there is no point in interacting with you other than to point you out to others who have not made a decision. But, in the interest of general instruction, I’ll leave you with a few nuggets.

The fact that the Bible contains things strange to you might be an indication that it’s beyond you, and you should humble yourself. You are mad about death, but we already know you don’t know what death is.

ALL life on earth ends. Whether at 20 years, 50 years, or 90 years. The ONLY time you are mad about it is when God tries to teach you something involving the end of life.

The end of life on earth is not the end. It’s only the beginning. Thinking the end of life on earth is the greatest evil tells us that when it comes down to it, you are basically an atheist thinking that life on earth is all there is to worry about.

So you say Jesus has nothing in common with Yahweh. When Jesus comes back with his army of angels and saints, he will annihilate the Antichrist, his armies, his governments, and those who hate heaven and the righteous. Our beloved Jesus will slaughter hundreds of millions of people. Maybe billions.

You say Jesus died for your sins, but you hate Yahweh for telling you about that by the slaughter of an animal. Now after I finish this comment to you, I am going out to eat a chicken that somebody slaughtered. Are you vegetarian? Or are you a murderer of animals like this Yahweh you hate? Do you hate us omnivores as much as you hate God?

So I’ll leave you with a few words from this evil Yahweh that you hate.

but the seventh year you shall let it rest and lie fallow, that the poor of your people may eat; and what they leave the beasts of the field may eat. You shall do likewise with your vineyard, and with your olive orchard.

Exodus 23:11

Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 5:3

For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe. He executes justice for the fatherless and the widow, and loves the sojourner, giving him food and clothing. Love the sojourner, therefore, for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt.

Deuteronomy 10:17-19

You are so mad about life ending, you don’t care about justice, and don’t recognize it when you see it. And you just assume that the death described in the Bible is sinful and unjust.

So you have the name of Jesus who you claim as your savior, but I’ve run into people who don’t claim he is the Messiah who impress me. And I have run into people who call Jesus their Lord and master who can’t show me any evidence of divine character or wisdom whatsoever.

Among those who don’t think Jesus is the Messiah who impress me are those who can recognize that the divine message in the Bible, starting at Genesis, is consistent, and that the things that Jesus said and did are consistent with the message of love, and justice, and fairness, honesty, and forgiveness that is all over the Hebrew Bible.

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